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Aidan Gallagher's avatar

this is great, and overlaps which lots that i also think about. i’ve also shared the desire for increased reduction of policy questions to ‘data questions’, however i think this does brush over the fact that the question you consider, as almost any political disagreement, also roots itself in a particular moral framework (what is ‘should’, what is ‘best’), and unless you all agree on an ethics, and it’a neat and calculationary one (and perhaps not even then!), this reduction doesn’t obviously get you any closer to a framework for assessing true agreement/disagreement, or perhaps truth itself. this comes up perhaps most commonly when party politicians in moments of difficulty will proclaim that all the main parties ‘share the same goals’ — those goals presumably being making britain a better place for everyone to live in. asides from the fact that even this statement is obviously factually incorrect, the fact that a politician could sincerely believe that would seem to suggest all politics should reduce to the simple calculation of what’s best, which is never seems to.

the other objection of course, and commonly applied to utilitarian arguments, is that the supposed data questions to which we’re in the business of reducing things don’t have knowable answers (in the form eg of clear truth criteria) — is it 67% bad to make put someones safety at risk in a particular situation or is it 68%?

i’m not totally swayed by these objections and sometimes approximations will be good enough, and in general i think in any case the thrust of ‘people should be significantly more precise on exactly what they disagree on when they disagree’ is something i believe very strongly, i just think perhaps just hoping this can always become a ‘data question’, or that doing so will solve things, is overoptimistic

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Lauren Levine's avatar

The story of Edshu - the god who walked down a road with a hat half red and half blue - some in the village saw the red side, others th eblue and everyone started fighting about the colour of the hat

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